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		By: Bernie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beautiful Friesian mare listed for &quot;adoption&quot; - however, the &quot;pronouns&quot; in the ad kept getting mixed up -sometimes calling it &quot;he&quot; and sometimes &quot;she&quot;.  I thought it was a typo and emailed for info.  Received the following email:
hello
my friend it a mare horse and is still available ..

*Below are Some details About Her
Date of Birth: 20.05.08
Sire: Locke
Dame Sire: John
Name:Bella
Breed : Friesian
Gender : Mare
Height: 160 cm / 16.0 hh
Weight : 1000 kg
Color : bay black
Temperament :1

*Her Characteristics : Dressage,Riding,Western Pleasure and lots of
more,she is Very good for beginners .

*Please I would like you to answer me the questions below, so I can
know what kind of house that you got , if Your Home maybe the perfect
place for her .

How old are you?
Have you ever had a friesian horse before?
Do You know how to care for a horse?
Do You know how to ride?
Will You take good care of the horse?
Do You have a range where you will keep the horse?
Do you know how to dressage a horse?

Please hope you don&#039;t mind me for the to much Question just want to
make sure Bella gets the best Home. Thanks and awaiting your respond.

You can see how bad the english is - shortly after receiving the email, a series of texts followed - some included pics of a gorgeous Friesian horse.  The scam was that the horse was free - but I couldn&#039;t see it because they had moved from washington state to Kentucky - however they would give me the horse but I had to pay for the shipping.  They said they were going to use &quot;Uship&quot; - which I have used in the past so I wasn&#039;t sure how they were working that angle.  The email was from a &quot;Solange Manthins&quot; but the name in the ad was a Morianna Almanza.  There were also two additional ads for the same horse under different names, but the same phone number and the owner was listed as &quot;spencer&quot;.  I suspected - first based on the horrible english - that it was a scam but kept them talking to see what the scam was.  I confronted them finally and they accused me of being a scammer :)  and told me to leave them alone :)    Anyway, the same ad is placed in every state.  So everyone looking to find a Friesian that is affordable (like myself) - BEWARE]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful Friesian mare listed for &#8220;adoption&#8221; &#8211; however, the &#8220;pronouns&#8221; in the ad kept getting mixed up -sometimes calling it &#8220;he&#8221; and sometimes &#8220;she&#8221;.  I thought it was a typo and emailed for info.  Received the following email:<br />
hello<br />
my friend it a mare horse and is still available ..</p>
<p>*Below are Some details About Her<br />
Date of Birth: 20.05.08<br />
Sire: Locke<br />
Dame Sire: John<br />
Name:Bella<br />
Breed : Friesian<br />
Gender : Mare<br />
Height: 160 cm / 16.0 hh<br />
Weight : 1000 kg<br />
Color : bay black<br />
Temperament :1</p>
<p>*Her Characteristics : Dressage,Riding,Western Pleasure and lots of<br />
more,she is Very good for beginners .</p>
<p>*Please I would like you to answer me the questions below, so I can<br />
know what kind of house that you got , if Your Home maybe the perfect<br />
place for her .</p>
<p>How old are you?<br />
Have you ever had a friesian horse before?<br />
Do You know how to care for a horse?<br />
Do You know how to ride?<br />
Will You take good care of the horse?<br />
Do You have a range where you will keep the horse?<br />
Do you know how to dressage a horse?</p>
<p>Please hope you don&#8217;t mind me for the to much Question just want to<br />
make sure Bella gets the best Home. Thanks and awaiting your respond.</p>
<p>You can see how bad the english is &#8211; shortly after receiving the email, a series of texts followed &#8211; some included pics of a gorgeous Friesian horse.  The scam was that the horse was free &#8211; but I couldn&#8217;t see it because they had moved from washington state to Kentucky &#8211; however they would give me the horse but I had to pay for the shipping.  They said they were going to use &#8220;Uship&#8221; &#8211; which I have used in the past so I wasn&#8217;t sure how they were working that angle.  The email was from a &#8220;Solange Manthins&#8221; but the name in the ad was a Morianna Almanza.  There were also two additional ads for the same horse under different names, but the same phone number and the owner was listed as &#8220;spencer&#8221;.  I suspected &#8211; first based on the horrible english &#8211; that it was a scam but kept them talking to see what the scam was.  I confronted them finally and they accused me of being a scammer 🙂  and told me to leave them alone 🙂    Anyway, the same ad is placed in every state.  So everyone looking to find a Friesian that is affordable (like myself) &#8211; BEWARE</p>
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		By: Brittany		</title>
		<link>https://theequinest.com/friesian-in-texas/comment-page-2#comment-55262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brittany]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://theequinest.com/friesian-in-texas/comment-page-2#comment-50513&quot;&gt;Aderana&lt;/a&gt;.

I JUST got this exact same email, same name and everything. I was so close to falling for it too! I am glad I found  this before I made a huge mistake!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://theequinest.com/friesian-in-texas/comment-page-2#comment-50513">Aderana</a>.</p>
<p>I JUST got this exact same email, same name and everything. I was so close to falling for it too! I am glad I found  this before I made a huge mistake!</p>
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		By: AngelsandHooves		</title>
		<link>https://theequinest.com/friesian-in-texas/comment-page-2#comment-55252</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AngelsandHooves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We were in need of a new horse for our facility and saw a posting for this same horse, different name (Maxim), but when we tried to call the number they messaged us back saying for us to email them at: Raymond Cox ; 

we found it strange that they said they were local to us in the listing but then stated that they were in Maryland when emailed. So we decided to look into them, thank you so much for having this information on here. It let us know that it was a scam before things could progress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were in need of a new horse for our facility and saw a posting for this same horse, different name (Maxim), but when we tried to call the number they messaged us back saying for us to email them at: Raymond Cox ; </p>
<p>we found it strange that they said they were local to us in the listing but then stated that they were in Maryland when emailed. So we decided to look into them, thank you so much for having this information on here. It let us know that it was a scam before things could progress.</p>
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		By: Anna		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It appears that this has now moved to RSA - they use the same pictures as these:
http://www.theequinest.com/images/ebony-3.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that this has now moved to RSA &#8211; they use the same pictures as these:<br />
<a href="http://www.theequinest.com/images/ebony-3.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theequinest.com/images/ebony-3.jpg</a></p>
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		By: stephanie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2014 04:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[kiki....... they are at it again thank god i checked the internet before they got me.
john meeker
john meeker&#039;s profile photo
johnmeeker400@yahoo.com
john meeker 
	
Apr 9
		
to me
Nice reading from you in regards to my Friesian gelding.He will come with all health papers and one year health guarantee. This gelding {kiki} is very Intelligent, completely healthy and sound  great, sane, trail horse deluxe!has awesome four beat gaits. will also canter if you ask him to do,not spooky, forward moving and enjoys trail riding. lunges beautifully and listens to voice cues well. one of the best horses I have ever rode and will do what you ask of her when you ask.loves attention and grooming and is easy to groom, trim, shoe and handle in every way. has great feet but I keep shoes on him in the hot and cold weather just because of terrain he would be. I am giving him out because of my new job that i just found here in Denver(COLORADO) and also  since i was involved in a car accident with my wife and we both can&#039;t ride any more. My wife was an experienced beginner and she really enjoyed riding where as I am an experienced rider and also enjoy riding kiki. So therefore, I am sure that it will be great for just about any riding level from experienced beginner on up the scale.I also know that kiki would make a fantastic field trial horse if some one was interested in him for that because kiki has great,Endurance and listens so well. I want kiki to find a great home and will only Give to such a home. Also, kiki is fine with other horses or without them.He has lived in a boarding situation before and did just as well as he does in a private home situation. up to date on vaccines and dental care.  I don&#039;t know what else I can say about kiki other than if you are looking for a horse that will be the same everyday and bring you hours of enjoyment whether out on the trail or in the pasture then,he might be the horse for you! I thought I would go ahead and post him so that somebody could start enjoying him. Before i let you have the gelding i will like to know the following about you.. we Just relocated to Denver(COLORADO) and that is where the horse will be coming from. so since we are not selling him then you will just need to pay for her transportation fee over which is $1000 not to me but to the DELIVERY AGENCY okay.




Have you ever had a horse before.....................?

Do you own a Ranch.............................................?

Are you an experienced Rider or a Beginner............?

Are you interested in Breeding or Riding..............?

Where are you located precisely in the country........?


How soon do you need kiki..............................?



Am asking all these questions so as to make sure that the horse gets into the hands of some one who will take proper care of the horse.Do E-MAIL me when you will like me to transport the horse to you.Thanks for the mail and pray God bless you opting to have kiki.He is actually available and i really need a caring and loving home. please just promise me that you will love him and treat him well. I am not that concern about money but the care and concern. please promise  first  that you will be able to show this and we proceed seriously with the shipping.He is currently on all shots and worming.He has enough shoes and i will like to show you recent pictures.He is with Dr Rachel the vet Doctor, his teeth are floated as i am talking with you now. He has never encountered any medical problem before and never been lame.He is really in best health .my dear i want you to promise that you will take good care of kiki and that he will be treated as well.He is 7 years,15.00hh and can walk properly on street. good for a new rider.Please attach to this mail are some recent photos of kiki
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beware horse lovers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kiki&#8230;&#8230;. they are at it again thank god i checked the internet before they got me.<br />
john meeker<br />
john meeker&#8217;s profile photo<br />
<a href="mailto:johnmeeker400@yahoo.com">johnmeeker400@yahoo.com</a><br />
john meeker </p>
<p>Apr 9</p>
<p>to me<br />
Nice reading from you in regards to my Friesian gelding.He will come with all health papers and one year health guarantee. This gelding {kiki} is very Intelligent, completely healthy and sound  great, sane, trail horse deluxe!has awesome four beat gaits. will also canter if you ask him to do,not spooky, forward moving and enjoys trail riding. lunges beautifully and listens to voice cues well. one of the best horses I have ever rode and will do what you ask of her when you ask.loves attention and grooming and is easy to groom, trim, shoe and handle in every way. has great feet but I keep shoes on him in the hot and cold weather just because of terrain he would be. I am giving him out because of my new job that i just found here in Denver(COLORADO) and also  since i was involved in a car accident with my wife and we both can&#8217;t ride any more. My wife was an experienced beginner and she really enjoyed riding where as I am an experienced rider and also enjoy riding kiki. So therefore, I am sure that it will be great for just about any riding level from experienced beginner on up the scale.I also know that kiki would make a fantastic field trial horse if some one was interested in him for that because kiki has great,Endurance and listens so well. I want kiki to find a great home and will only Give to such a home. Also, kiki is fine with other horses or without them.He has lived in a boarding situation before and did just as well as he does in a private home situation. up to date on vaccines and dental care.  I don&#8217;t know what else I can say about kiki other than if you are looking for a horse that will be the same everyday and bring you hours of enjoyment whether out on the trail or in the pasture then,he might be the horse for you! I thought I would go ahead and post him so that somebody could start enjoying him. Before i let you have the gelding i will like to know the following about you.. we Just relocated to Denver(COLORADO) and that is where the horse will be coming from. so since we are not selling him then you will just need to pay for her transportation fee over which is $1000 not to me but to the DELIVERY AGENCY okay.</p>
<p>Have you ever had a horse before&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>Do you own a Ranch&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>Are you an experienced Rider or a Beginner&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>Are you interested in Breeding or Riding&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..?</p>
<p>Where are you located precisely in the country&#8230;&#8230;..?</p>
<p>How soon do you need kiki&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>Am asking all these questions so as to make sure that the horse gets into the hands of some one who will take proper care of the horse.Do E-MAIL me when you will like me to transport the horse to you.Thanks for the mail and pray God bless you opting to have kiki.He is actually available and i really need a caring and loving home. please just promise me that you will love him and treat him well. I am not that concern about money but the care and concern. please promise  first  that you will be able to show this and we proceed seriously with the shipping.He is currently on all shots and worming.He has enough shoes and i will like to show you recent pictures.He is with Dr Rachel the vet Doctor, his teeth are floated as i am talking with you now. He has never encountered any medical problem before and never been lame.He is really in best health .my dear i want you to promise that you will take good care of kiki and that he will be treated as well.He is 7 years,15.00hh and can walk properly on street. good for a new rider.Please attach to this mail are some recent photos of kiki<br />
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beware horse lovers</p>
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		By: Maureen		</title>
		<link>https://theequinest.com/friesian-in-texas/comment-page-2#comment-53282</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maureen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 11:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another one, this one is from HorseClicks, April 2014.
What is wrong with these idiots?

From Raymond Cox&quot; &#060;raymondcox099@gmail.com
Nice reading from you in regards to my Friesian gelding.He will come
with all health papers and one year health guarantee. This gelding
{kiki} is very Intelligent, completely healthy and sound  great, sane,
trail horse deluxe!has awesome four beat gaits. will also canter if
you ask him to do,not spooky, forward moving and enjoys trail
riding.lunges beautifully and listens to voice cues well. one of the
best horses I have ever rode and will do what you ask of her when you
ask.loves attention and grooming and is easy to groom, trim, shoe and
handle in every way. has great feet but I keep shoes on him in the hot
and cold weather just because of terrain he would be. I am giving him
out because of my new job that i just found here in Orlando(FLORIDA)
and also  since i was involved in a car accident with my wife and we
both can&#039;t ride any more. My wife was an experienced beginner and she
really enjoyed riding where as I am an experienced rider and also
enjoy riding kiki. So therefore, I am sure that it will be great for
just about any riding level from experienced beginner on up the
scale.I also know that kiki would make a fantastic field trial horse
if some one was interested in him for that because kiki has
great,Endurance and listens so well. I want kiki to find a great home
and will only Give to such a home. Also, kiki is fine with other
horses or without them.He has lived in a boarding situation before and
did just as well as he does in a private home situation. up to date on
vaccines and dental care.  I don&#039;t know what else I can say about kiki
other than if you are looking for a horse that will be the same
everyday and bring you hours of enjoyment whether out on the trail or
in the pasture then,he might be the horse for you! I thought I would
go ahead and post him so that somebody could start enjoying him.
Before i let you have the gelding i will like to know the following
about you.. we Just relocated to Orlando(FLORIDA) and that is where
the horse will be coming from. so since we are not selling him then
you will just need to pay for her transportation fee over which is
$700 not to me but to the DELIVERY AGENCY okay.



Have you ever had a horse before.....................?

Do you own a Ranch...................................?

Are you an experienced Rider or a Beginner............?

Are you interested in Breeding or Riding..............?

Where are you located precisely in the country........?

How soon do you need kiki..............................?



Am asking all these questions so as to make sure that the horse gets
into the hands of some one who will take proper care of the horse.Do
E-MAIL me when you will like me to transport the horse to you.Thanks
for the mail and pray God bless you opting to have kiki.He is actually
available and i really need a caring and loving home. please just
promise me that you will love him and treat him well. I am not that
concern about money but the care and concern. please promise  first
that you will be able to show this and we proceed seriously with the
shipping.He is currently on all shots and worming.He has enough shoes
and i will like to show you recent pictures.He is with Dr Rachel the
vet Doctor, his teeth are floated as i
am talking with you now. He has never encountered any medical problem
before and never been lame.He is really in best health .my dear i want
you to promise that you will take good care of kiki and that he will
be treated as well.He is 7 years,15.00hh and can walk properly on
street.good for a new rider.Please attach to this mail are some recent
photos of kiki...



                         best regards and hope to read from you asap.


                         HOPE TO READ FROM YOU.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another one, this one is from HorseClicks, April 2014.<br />
What is wrong with these idiots?</p>
<p>From Raymond Cox&#8221; &lt;raymondcox099@gmail.com<br />
Nice reading from you in regards to my Friesian gelding.He will come<br />
with all health papers and one year health guarantee. This gelding<br />
{kiki} is very Intelligent, completely healthy and sound  great, sane,<br />
trail horse deluxe!has awesome four beat gaits. will also canter if<br />
you ask him to do,not spooky, forward moving and enjoys trail<br />
riding.lunges beautifully and listens to voice cues well. one of the<br />
best horses I have ever rode and will do what you ask of her when you<br />
ask.loves attention and grooming and is easy to groom, trim, shoe and<br />
handle in every way. has great feet but I keep shoes on him in the hot<br />
and cold weather just because of terrain he would be. I am giving him<br />
out because of my new job that i just found here in Orlando(FLORIDA)<br />
and also  since i was involved in a car accident with my wife and we<br />
both can&#039;t ride any more. My wife was an experienced beginner and she<br />
really enjoyed riding where as I am an experienced rider and also<br />
enjoy riding kiki. So therefore, I am sure that it will be great for<br />
just about any riding level from experienced beginner on up the<br />
scale.I also know that kiki would make a fantastic field trial horse<br />
if some one was interested in him for that because kiki has<br />
great,Endurance and listens so well. I want kiki to find a great home<br />
and will only Give to such a home. Also, kiki is fine with other<br />
horses or without them.He has lived in a boarding situation before and<br />
did just as well as he does in a private home situation. up to date on<br />
vaccines and dental care.  I don&#039;t know what else I can say about kiki<br />
other than if you are looking for a horse that will be the same<br />
everyday and bring you hours of enjoyment whether out on the trail or<br />
in the pasture then,he might be the horse for you! I thought I would<br />
go ahead and post him so that somebody could start enjoying him.<br />
Before i let you have the gelding i will like to know the following<br />
about you.. we Just relocated to Orlando(FLORIDA) and that is where<br />
the horse will be coming from. so since we are not selling him then<br />
you will just need to pay for her transportation fee over which is<br />
$700 not to me but to the DELIVERY AGENCY okay.</p>
<p>Have you ever had a horse before&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>Do you own a Ranch&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..?</p>
<p>Are you an experienced Rider or a Beginner&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>Are you interested in Breeding or Riding&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..?</p>
<p>Where are you located precisely in the country&#8230;&#8230;..?</p>
<p>How soon do you need kiki&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?</p>
<p>Am asking all these questions so as to make sure that the horse gets<br />
into the hands of some one who will take proper care of the horse.Do<br />
E-MAIL me when you will like me to transport the horse to you.Thanks<br />
for the mail and pray God bless you opting to have kiki.He is actually<br />
available and i really need a caring and loving home. please just<br />
promise me that you will love him and treat him well. I am not that<br />
concern about money but the care and concern. please promise  first<br />
that you will be able to show this and we proceed seriously with the<br />
shipping.He is currently on all shots and worming.He has enough shoes<br />
and i will like to show you recent pictures.He is with Dr Rachel the<br />
vet Doctor, his teeth are floated as i<br />
am talking with you now. He has never encountered any medical problem<br />
before and never been lame.He is really in best health .my dear i want<br />
you to promise that you will take good care of kiki and that he will<br />
be treated as well.He is 7 years,15.00hh and can walk properly on<br />
street.good for a new rider.Please attach to this mail are some recent<br />
photos of kiki&#8230;</p>
<p>                         best regards and hope to read from you asap.</p>
<p>                         HOPE TO READ FROM YOU.</p>
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		By: terrih		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I too was all excited about acquiring a beautiful 5 yr old Friesian horse.  I am still dealing with this person who lost their partner (most recent email calls her wife) and can&#039;t keep the horse past this Saturday due to she has already sold her home.  She doesn&#039;t know anything about horses other than she bought this horse, Montana, for her beloved wife to keep her busy while she traveled all over the US and globe for work. 
 I am telling her that I can come look at the horse, so I&#039;m awaiting an address. I will let you know what happens]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too was all excited about acquiring a beautiful 5 yr old Friesian horse.  I am still dealing with this person who lost their partner (most recent email calls her wife) and can&#8217;t keep the horse past this Saturday due to she has already sold her home.  She doesn&#8217;t know anything about horses other than she bought this horse, Montana, for her beloved wife to keep her busy while she traveled all over the US and globe for work.<br />
 I am telling her that I can come look at the horse, so I&#8217;m awaiting an address. I will let you know what happens</p>
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